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A Major Burn from my Granny 12-01-08 02:57pm EST
Many of you have asked me how my Granny is, and at 93 it is fair to say she is slowing down quite a bit physically. However, she is still exceptionally quick-witted, as the following exchange will demonstrate.

Today when I called her this is how the conversation went:
Shane: Hey Granny what are you up to?
Granny: I am planning on how many times I am gonna whip you when you come home again.
Shane: Well, I guess I'll have to stuff some pillows in my pants.
Granny: You ain't got any britches big enough to do that.

I love my Granny!
madtomkiddWow, granny is HARSH! Thanks for Vict'ry Road - that is great! And I had forgotten just how strongly you bust that tenor! 
coulterha ha 
maddieandiansmamaWhat have you done to earn a whipping from Granny? 
cmvermontlol granny needs to pick up knitting or something to occupy her time besides planning your whippings! 
cmvermonti'm also laughing about how you phrased the set up "this is how the conversations went:" as if that was the entire conversation! i can just picture your granny laying that burn down and you're like *click* 
holly_annHAHA! I so want to meet your granny. 
callmehandsLOL. What is it about grandparents that gives them carte blanche on insults? My grandfather never fails to make some kind of remark about how big I've gotten...at least he's honest, I guess. 
_sylviaanne_HE HE 
curlieHAHA 
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Count Your Blessings Time 11-26-08 04:11pm EST
Well, I don't normally do this, but I thought I would take a moment to randomly list some things that stick out to me as reasons for gratitude this holiday season:
-Although Granny is 93 and slowing down, she is still sharp as a tack, and a joy to talk with every day.
-I love what I do, and am supported generously to do it.
-I am surrounded by harmony, like an all you can eat ear candy buffet.
-Week before last I got to hang with three of my best preacher buddies: Ralph Walker, Marty Pickup and Curtis Pope.
-For a fat guy I am in unreasonably good health.
-Five people voted for me to be leader of the free world (four if you don't count me).
-While I haven't found someone to share my life with, neither have I stumbled into a horrible relationship (trying to be cup-half-full here).
-My buddy, brother, and baritone Drew is going to have a biological child of his own after years of trying.
-I have more friends than I can possibly do justice to keep up with.
-I still have a great relationship with the people in every church I have worked with.
-I know that my Mom would be really, really proud of me.

So there you go - some random items of gratitude. And in honor of each item, I intend to eat a piece of turkey or ham for each. Triptophan, here I come!
madtomkidd"All you can eat ear candy buffet" is perfect! 
coulterwell Paul left some of his churches mad, are you not preaching hard enough? J/K 
cmvermontlove ya brother :) 
navydocHappy Thanksgiving Shane! 
beckylboyerI had to read the "all you can eat ear candy buffet" several times before I got it. :) It's always good to count your blessings...and eat food for all of them. :) 
btrflybarbHappy Thanksgiving!
 
hooseSpeaking of Curtis Pope, I was watching Forensic Files on TrueTV the other day and was cracking up because one of the criminals they were profiling was named Curtis Pope. I had a good half hour reminiscing about my time spent with him. He is a great guy! 
jandpsdadI count you as a blessing, brother. You are a great example to more than you can imagine! 
lilsisthere are a lot of people at church who are grateful for you 
lilsison occassion I'm one of them 
lilsishaha, j/k, I'm grateful that I get to harass you 
lilsisHappy Thanksgiving!!! 
lilsisHow come I'm not on your friends list??? :( OR should I be on your fiends list? 
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a MUST-READ Article About Wendell Berry 11-24-08 11:43am EST
Some time ago I wrote something on pleonast about one of my favorite authors, Wendell Berry. Probably no writer comes closer to outlining my own political beliefs than him. Many of you have probably not had the chance to read anything of his, so here is a GREAT article by Rod Dreher which introduces some of his key ideas. Check it out!

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/columnists/rdreher/stories/DN-dreher_26edi.State.Edition1.21c9278.html
coulterI'm so glad you posted this, it sounds like we are three KY peas in a pod, w/ politics that is. 
coulterI quote him in a sermon on Christians & the Enviroment, I might add him to my lesson on Christians & Government. 
benThat was interesting to read. Do you have any recommendations of some of Berry's material that might be a good place to start? 
graminatorBerry's novels are awesome ... he's wonderful! 
cheferticI have never heard of this author. I will have to check into this one. This is a bit late coming, but THANK YOU for the great gospel meeting at Valrico. It was good to spend time with you again. Emily enjoyed seeing you also, even though you left her picture behind....so I hear. Stephanie was to mail it to you. Happy Turkey Day to you and granny. 
beejayDoesn't he also write poems or something? 
aaron_nicVery interesting guy. Wish I had known about him a long time ago! 
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A few reflections on politics and the Christian 11-20-08 12:19pm EST
Now that the campaigns are over I wanted to share a few thoughts about politics and Christians. Just how involved should we be in the political process?

Here in Middle Tennessee, the dominant view 100 years ago was that the Christian should refrain from participation, even from voting. David Lipscomb was the champion of this view, which he based on the belief that the governments of the world were under the sway of the evil one, and that we should not associate ourselves with such evil. His beliefs drew heavily on the picture of Satanic control of the earthly powers in Revelation 13.

I do not believe Lipscomb's analysis was correct. Clearly the Roman Empire as a tool of persecution was an instrument of Satan. But I believe it was a mistake to extrapolate from that to argue that all civil government in principle is devilish, especially in light of Romans 13.

A century later it seems to me that the Christians I know have swung to the other end of the spectrum, in which great emphasis is placed on involvement in the political process. I heard a teacher at FC give a chapel talk one time in which he said it was a sin NOT to vote! Frankly I think that view is just as erroneous as Lipscomb's.

Since we are a democracy, the will of the people determines our political future. And if the majority of the people of the country lack values informed by the Bible, then no amount of political activism is going to change things. This was brought home to me in 1998 when Bill Clinton was impeached and the overwhelming percentage of Americans thought he was the good guy and Ken Starr was the villain.

The gospel of Christ is the only thing that can change peoples hearts. If enough people are convicted by the word about right and wrong, issues like abortion and gay marriage will take care of themselves. But absent this conviction, no amount of politicking is going to change America.

Another major difference in the last 100 years is the party affiliation of most Christians. A century ago I doubt 1 in 100 southern Christians were Republicans. In fact, as recently as 1976 Jimmy Carter overwhelmingly carried the evangelical vote. Today, based on the bumper stickers I see, most people I go to church with (or preach meetings for) are overwhelmingly Republican.

There are lots of factors for this change. Most Christians used to be Democrats because of the agrarian nature of the south, the War Between the States, and the Depression. Republicans were seen to be in the hip-pocket of the immoral financiers taking advantage of the poor. Today, because of social issues like abortion and gay rights, most Christians are in the GOP.

What concerns me is when Christians allow partisanship to skew objectivity. My grandfather was what we call in KY a "yellow dog Democrat," meaning he would vote for a yellow dog before he would vote Republican. In 1984 I asked him about a series of specific issues, and he took the same views as Ronald Reagan on all of them, but still voted a straight Democrat ticket.

Recently, I have noticed that many Christians become hostile when I criticize George Bush and the current Republican regime. Once again, partisanship can distort objectivity.

What is worse is when Christians allow themselves to be manipulated by the political parties. That clearly happened in the case of my Pop, who could never shake the images of the Depression and what he perceived to be the loving and charitable policies of the Democrats. I believe much the same happened in 2004. The Republicans made sure gay marriage amendments were on the ballots of key swing states like OH. Bush campaigned very hard on that issue. This spiked the turn-out of evangelicals, and even garnered support by black churches. But once Bush won, how much have you heard him say about the issue? It was the classic bait and switch.

So, I encourage all believers to be involved as much as your conscience allows. But I also encourage all believers to remember that your citizenship is in heaven (Phil. 3:20), and that the true battleground is not the electoral map but the hearts of people who need to surrender to King Jesus.
hooseAmen, brother. Excellent post. 
spimmanGood thoughts 
madtomkiddI agree with most of your thoughts (even anti-Bush sentiment - I used to be a Republican, but today, regarding that word, I'll quote a spaniard "I do not think it means what he think it means"). The one point I'm not sure about is the "bait and switch" accusation. Homosexual marriage was a topic of much discussion, but - as with most things - there is a limited amount a president can do to change the law - because of our constitution.

Would I have been happy if more attention were given the subject? Sure! But I'd have been just as happy if the ridiculous spending plans (I can't call it a budget) had never seen the light of day. 
deusvitaeI am getting quite close to the no participation view, less regarding Romans 13 and more for the general welfare of the Kingdom. From what I saw of the election cycle this time around, regardless of who won, the Kingdom lost. And I don't mean because of the result. 
beckylboyerRyan had a discussion with someone at our congregation that I think is a lot like your pop. Ryan went down the line and asked him his take on every issue he could think of. In every instance the guy was more "conservative" than Ryan. But he said he would never vote for a republican unless he became rich. Ryan laughed and told him he was a conservative he just didn't know it. :) I like your thoughts above. I'm pretty much soured on both major parties for those exact reasons! 
coultergood thoughts shane. Some Christians buy hook line & sinker Oprah, others buy hook line & sinker Rush, we all buy hook line & sinker 'Country First', we ought to buy the truth & sell it not, it is only the Word who truly sets us free. 
lovinstlouis02Amen. 
danielstephensomething ive been sort of thinking about lately is this idea of "spreading the wealth" that people love to bash. i guess i know where some people are coming from when they bash that idea, but another part of me thinks we ought to be careful about criticizing it so much. in some ways, it seems the bible teaches that we ought to give to others even when they "don't deserve it" or have "gotten themselves into that situation." isn't that sort of what "spreading the wealth" accomplishes? 
pablito1Thank you for the speedy lesson in US politics. Being Canadian, I have heard much over the past few years regarding the views of the US political parties and I wondered how any christian could vote Democrat, but hearing of the history of the parties and their views helps me to understand that it isn't quite as cut-&-dried as it appears. 
kon_tikikind of a side note, but i find it humorous when young people criticize conservative church folk for thinking the gospel and GOP go hand in hand. How many of them know what you mentioned that one or two generations ago many Christians voted DEM.

politicians and their parties can change very drastically and so those of us trying to live by core values are always in a state of flux in our feeling of representation and willingness to participate in the political process. 
cmvermontdemocrat didn't always mean what it's meant for the past 40 years. 
chessmanYou pointed out what most people miss on moral issues. Law is much less important than heart. Abortion is a classic example. I don't really care if abortion is legal, I just don't want it to happen. "Conservatives" have done a pretty good job lately (the last 20 years) of shifting focus away from bombing clinics and harassing women to providing support to decisions which prevent abortion. When I was growing up, lots of people saw nothing wrong with abortion. That number is way down. There's still some problem with people talking about an imaginary "right" to "control her own body", but they at least see those as two values in conflict, and are getting increasingly uncomfortable with snuffing out a life for someone else's comfort. Also, the shift of focus toward helping young women do something which they will likely find very painful in the future helps, rather than just condemning. 
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Great Endorsement from My New Buddy, Hendon Haley. 11-11-08 10:12pm EST
I am preaching this week in Valrico, FL, and I am staying with some FC classmates - John and Stephanie Haley. They have five sons, awesome young men. The youngest is named Hendon, age 7. Today in school he had to write about "the most interesting person I've ever met." Here is what he wrote-

The most interesting person I've ever met is Mr. Shane Scot.
is a preacher.
He is fune.
He is my numar wun psin.
He liks to resll Chas.
He wus a preeckr at a nuvr crc.
He is good.
He gis funee a lot.
I like him a lot.

Hendon, I like you a lot, too!
cindyloowhothat's a better endorsement than Obama or McCain ever got 
ticketsthat is just too precious! i love the haley's! 
lovnprayersSounds right to me. That must have popped some buttons! 
maddieandiansmamaPLease tell John and Stephanie hello from Stacy and Sarah Norman. Have a good trip! 
beckylboyerDo they homeschool their boys? I remember them from when I attended at Valrico. They didn't have Hendon then. I doubt they would remember Ryan and I but I was always so impressed with their family. 
buddabignbaldHe just doesn't know you yet. 
dbalentineHeard you on the FC chapel podcast. Great talk! 
vandeWow, Hendon couldn't even talk when I was at Valrico and now he's already writing fiction. 
_sylviaanne_Hi Mr. Shane Scott! This is Sylvia Gougar! 
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