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Just Curious... 02-05-08 08:27pm PST

If you read this If your eyes are passing over this right now Even if we don't speak too often Please post a comment with a memory of you and me It can be anything you want Good or Bad When finished, post this little paragraph on your blog And be surprised by what people remember about you.

justjoey

most of my memories of you are very much the same. i was always shy at camp and sorta awkward, and then you'd see me, come over and say hi, and then say something to the likes of, "you have such a nice smile joey! it just brightens my day!" and that always made me feel so warm and happy...so THANK you!

 
seattle22

Well, my fondest memory of us is like 2-in-1. The weekend I came to pullman and stayed in that cute little room of yours was really awesome. I definately believe we grew closer as friends then! But in that weekend was Saturday afternoon (I think,) when we visited at Bucers! Could never get tired of a great bible discussion with you!!!

 
clynch

Its hard to think of one thing...by the way, what do you think of McCain?

 
vande

I remember seeing you ride away in Tim's Blazer in your wedding dress to go take pictures before the wedding. You rode in the cargo space in the back (i.e. the truck)!

 
stylinmama

I remember when we went to banquet together at camp. You were my date and in our picture we were both SO sunburned. :) That was fun. Oh and I have pictures of when you came down to see me and we made cookies and had tons of fun.

 
mjintexas

I remember standing in the student center talking to you and thinking that you had the most beautiful hair!

 
mom247365

You were a camper. I was a counselor. There were a lot of us there and there were millions of memories made, only I can't remember any. Sorry. I do know you were a fun loving, outgoing, friendly young lady and a positive role model to the younger girls who looked up to you!!!

 
kristiegore

Nights in dorm laughing with Candee, you always made me laugh and you're such a fun and pleasant person to be around:)

 
jeking

A Bible study one night with you, Blair, Julia and I in mine and Julia's dorm room. Your beautiful smile and voice. Your happy spirit. Those are my most vivid memories of you.

 
stylinmama

Ha, I know! Can you tell that all of my furniture was bought when I was first married and I got SO stuck on green! Furniture isn't so easily replaced so green it is for a while longer. :)

 
DessertDiva

Oh - a while back I asked everyone who still wanted to be on my friends list to say so. Then if they didn't I erased their name from my list - just doing some housekeeping. I must not have heard from you :( I added you back.

Hmmm....a memory. The one that keeps popping into my head is you at FC Camp, always with your sleeves rolled up and always on a field playing a sport. :) And I also remember when you took the train to Portland and spent time with us! That was fun!

 
heatherfeather

Hi Mary! Thought that was you!...What up?...Lets see...I remember living down the hall from you at FC and just how sweet and welcoming you were and how easy going and real you seemed to be...And the fact you loved great music...Nothing super specific come to mind though...

 
hollyloo

hmmmm..... spring break at the beach, buddy holly, boy drama, having lots of fun... always. Never a dull moment when we were together. i remember always being able to talk about spiritual things with you and being encouraged when i was with you,,, i remember your pure heart. i miss seeing you .it's been five years, can you believe it???

 
heatherfeather

Yep It's me- Heather V. :)...Now Heather G. :)

 
ewalker

Hey, I got your message. Let's talk soon, I miss you.

 
jenfc00

All those late nights in the ol' Dorm!!!

 
tickets

haha, well i would have to say going to visit LN in your room wondering just WHAT you were doing!? :o)

 
wifelet

You're back! Thanks for the compliment on my sweet baby ... if you've been gone for a while, you probably missed our tragedy. Our sweet angel didn't make it - she was stillborn on Sept. 19th.

 
stylinmama

I'm glad you're back! I didn't even remember that I removed you! :)

 
kristiegore

Thanks, it was a good anniversary. We got bikes for each other, we just picked them up yesterday so I can't wait to go try them out!:)

 
mellymc

Thanks Mary! Yes we are expecting again...fun! I miss you!

 
kendrad

I remember meeting you and Ellen when you first moved in next to me and my first roommate. Very short-lived. I was on the first floor by September and she was gone by Thanksgiving.

 
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Merry Christmas? 12-02-07 06:50pm PST

Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukkah! Celebrate Kwanzaa! Seasons Greetings! Happy Holidays!

Isn't it amazing the variety of "pc" greetings we Americans have developed? (Did I miss any?)

As to "Christmas" - did anyone else grow up with parents who believed and taught you that Christmas should not be a celebration of Christ's birth? To this day, I avoid any direct reference to Christ such as stars, wise men, and nativity scenes.

Why? Probably because I tend to see Christmas as the commercialization of Christ. Once commercialized, it's easy to miss the true meaning of Christ. In fact I don't give many gifts either. Do I sound like a scrooge or what? (Sidenote, but for similar reasons I don't like to give gifts for "Mothers' Day" or "Fathers' Day" or even birthdays because I don't like the emphasis of one day - over all the other 364 - for appreciating that person.)

Ironically, in the last five years or so, the lack of the use of the word "Christmas" by many commercial companies bothers me because it seems like just one more place Christ is intentionally removed.

Am I being hypocritical?

baizal

We see it as a time to spend with family, to decorate and give gifts. Crystal and I never get anything for each other and I don't expect anything from my siblings or parents. For the most part if I want something I usually just buy it myself. We do more for our nieces and nephews who love getting gifts. Kids on Christmas morning just makes it better because how excited they get and how much fun they have.

I dislike Christ being removed in general more because its just another example of the minority forcing its beliefs on the majority. I just don't understand how someone hoping you have a happy day(Merry Christmas) is so offensive. Its like the whole making the English language the official language and those that can't speak English in America getting all upset.

Kwanzaa is just a holiday to make certain people feel better about themselves. Go over to Africa and they will look at you like you're crazy. Just ask my granddad, lived from 3-75 years old, and my mom, born and raised in Africa.

 
seattle22

Great post, love it! I wouldn't say you are hypocritical, but just making a point on principle because it is sad to see another success in Christ being removed from society even if we don't celebrate this day as Christ's birth. Sidenote- did you know I will be home for the holidays?

 
stylinmama

Hey! A new post! :) I agree with all of the above comments. Very good post, insightful.

 
DessertDiva

Wow - I never really thought of it that way before. We celebrate "the holidays", but I also avoid reference to Christ around this time as if we're celebrating his birth this ONE season. I tell people that I celebrate His birth every day and that I don't believe He was even born around this time.

I don't sing "religious" holiday songs and you won't see a Nativity scene in my front yard. I do have an excess of snowflake decorations, though. :)

 
seattle22

I will be in town (specifically Seattle area) from the 27th - the 1st! If I have a rental car and the time I will try to make it out there!! I would love to see your place!!

 
mjintexas

It's an interesting thought, Mary. I grew up with the same thing about it being completely secular. As I've gotten older, I mind less about people celebrating it as Christ's birth, because it seems that if people are thinking more about Jesus and religion, that perhaps that's a good time to take advantage of the mindset and teach that Christ is the reason for ALL seasons.

 
mellymc

Very good thoughts my Mary and I hope you are doing good! I miss you!!!! I looked through my wedding pictures and made me think of you. Happy Holidays!

 
holly_ann

My husband and I have discussed the same thing recently! Neither of us have ever celebrated the holiday as Christ's birth- we are never given a command to do that, instead we are commanded to remember Christ's death and resurrection every 1st day of the week. But it is disconcerting to see what little "religion" other people do have suddenly become labeled "politically incorrect." (I hope that sentence made sense).

 
mom247365

Great thoughts. I grew up Catholic so Christ was totally in Christmas. When we became Christians (Ron and I were in our early 20's) I went extreme the other way (although we never did give up the gift exchange). Now, 15+ years later....I am not so offended by "Christ"mas- because I feel like Jesus is still alive and acceptable to people in general and maybe just maybe people will take a look at the Bible.

BTW- HI!!! How are you!!! Mikey is still at U of I. He is still doing track has been training really hard since September!!! [

 
vande

Good point

 
vande

Of course as Christains we are mindful of Christ's death every week when we partake of the Lord's supper. As important of an event as that was it was certainly a beautiful day the day that our Savior was "born" too. Just think of the glory that He was willing to put aside in order to walk amoung us. I'm glad that we have these thoughts to bring up to people during this season as well.

P.S. I often times catch myself singing christmas songs along with the radio. There are some good ones. :) Happy Days to you and Tim. Hey Tim, sorry we had to cut our last conversation short. We'll catch up again soon. Later.

 
seattle22

I can promise you I won't rent a car just for you... I have to rent a car at some point anyways.

 
gumdrop

Great post, Mary! Growing up in the church like you, my parents really downplayed the reference to Christ at this time of year. We were taught that Jesus's death is what we are commanded to remember every first day of the week. We don't do anything for "Easter" and we don't celebrate “Christmas” the same way the world does. We think He was probably born in the summertime, but God didn't give us a date and didn’t tell us to celebrate His birth. We are happy He was born and lived and died and was raised again, but we were not told to celebrate His birthday. As a kid, I remember my father was hesitant to let the tree show in the window and didn’t dare put lights on the outside of the house incase it was misinterpreted that we were celebrating the world’s idea of Christmas.

 
gumdrop

My dad didn’t like us to say “Christmas” and he would rather have us write “Xmas” or nothing at all. I don’t think I have ever heard him say “Merry Christmas.” He lets Mom do the cards and I think she just wishes us “Happy Holidays.” As a child, we exchanged gifts and got stockings with goodies from “Santa,” and on top of the tree was always a Victorian doll or an old fashioned ceramic Santa doll. I know this was offensive to our Catholic neighbors who did not understand why we didn’t celebrate it as Christ’s birthday. We always avoided any star ornaments or other symbols like that for the tree and we didn’t sing or purchase holiday music that was religious. The cards we would send or display from friends were ones with non-religious holiday scenes. My parents made it more about the reindeer, the tree, Santa, snowmen, and stockings. As a kid, I even joked that it was Santa’s birthday this time of year, but I imagine that is horribly offensive to some – and I didn’t mean it to be. Over the years, a lot of non-Christians friends have been offended that I don’t talk about Jesus’ birth and that I don’t celebrate this as a religious holiday. To this day, you won’t find a star on my tree (I hang a US flag ornament near the top or leave it empty), and I won’t join in carols that have to do with Christ. Wow, sorry for that huge post. I guess I sort of got on a soapbox!! :) Mary, this is Steph if you couldn’t tell by my posts.

 
apokteno

Hey Mary! Good to hear from you. Unfortunately, my Greek is a little rusty these days. Should have kept those flashcards...

 
apokteno

I was taught that it is wrong to celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ because we are not commanded to in the Bible, we don't have an example of it, etc. I don't feel the same way about it now though. I'm concerned about the connection with Catholicism and the orgins of the holiday, but who really thinks about that when they think of Christmas today? Romans 14:5-6 really made me question my attitude toward Christmas "One person esteems one day above another; another person esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who doess not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it." I believe that passage is referring primarily to the Jewish Holy Days, but in light of that I don't see how I could say that it is wrong to take a day and celebrate the birth of Christ.

 
seattle22

yeah, I made it back fine. Today I made an official decision to Major in Kinesiology (nope, not english) and minor in History. It won't all be fun, but it will be well worth it if I could ever get a PE teaching job!!!

 
seattle22

I appreciate it Mary! Lately it just seems that the effort I am putting into keeping up with others is not being returned. I guess that post is a little "debbie downer." Well anyways, whatever happens it will be worth it if I can get into A&M!!

 
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Rick Warren Interview 09-06-07 11:14am PST

Below is an excerpt from an email I was forwarded. I'd love to hear thoughts about it. (I found it humbling and inspiring.)

(Sorry about the formatting, I was in a rush.) mps


This is an absolutely incredible interview with Rick Warren, author of "Purpose Driven Life" His wife now has cancer, and he now has "wealth" from the book sales. In the interview by Paul Bradshaw with Rick Warren, Rick said:"People ask me, "What is the purpose of life?" And I respond: In a nutshell, life is preparation for eternity. We were made to last forever, and God wants us to be with Him in HeavenOne day my heart is going to stop, and that will be the end of my body--but not the end of me.I may live 60 to 100 years on earth, but I am going to spend trillions of years in eternity. This is the warm-up act - the dress rehearsal.God wants us to practice on earth what we will do forever in eternity. We were made by God and for God, and until you figure that out, life isn't going to make sense.Life is a series of problems: Either you are in one now, you're just coming out of one, or you're getting ready to go into another one.

The reason for this is that God is more interested in your character than your comfortGod is more interested in making your life holy than He is in making your life happy.We can be reasonably happy here on earth, but that's not the goal of life. The goal is to grow in character, in Christ likeness.This past year has been the greatest year of my life but also the toughest, with my wife, Kay, getting cancer.I used to think that life was hills and valleys - you go through a dark time, then you go to the mountaintop, back and forth. I don't believe that anymore.Rather than life being hills and valleys, I believe that it's kind of like two rails on a railroad track, and at all times you have something good and something bad in your life.No matter how good things are in your life, there is always something bad that needs to be worked on.And no matter how bad things are in your life, there is always something good you can thank God for.You can focus on your purposes, or you can focus on your problems. If you focus on your problems, you're going into self-centeredness, "which is my problem, my issues, my pain."But one of the easiest ways to get rid of pain is to get your focus off yourself and onto God and others.We discovered quickly that in spite of the prayers of hundreds of thousands of people, God was not going to heal Kay or make it easy for her.It has been very difficult for her, and yet God has strengthened her character, given her a ministry of helping other people, given her a testimony, drawn her closer to Him and to people.You u have to learn to deal with both the good and the bad of life.

Actually, sometimes learning to deal with the good is harder. For instance, this past year, all of a sudden, when the book sold 15 million copies, it made me instantly very wealthy.It also brought a lot of notoriety that I had never had to deal with before. I don't think God gives you money or notoriety for your own ego or for you to live a life of ease.So I began to ask God what He wanted me to do with this money, notoriety and influence. He gave me two different passages that helped me decide what to do, II Corinthians 9 and Psalm 72.First, in spite of all the money coming in, we would not change our lifestyle one bit. We made no major purchases.Second, about midway through last year, I stopped taking a salary from the church. Third, we set up foundations to fund an initiative we call The Peace Plan to plant churches, equip leaders, assist the poor, care for the sick, and educate the next generation.Fourth, I added up all that the church had paid me in the 24 years since I started the church, and I gave it all back. It was liberating to be able to serve God for free.We need to ask ourselves: Am I going to live for possessions? Popularity?Am I going to be driven by pressures? Guilt? Bitterness? Materialism? Or am I going to be driven by God's purposes (for my life)?When I get up in the morning, I sit on the side of my bed and say, God, if I don't get anything else done today, I want to know You more and love You better. God didn't put me on earth just to fulfill a to-do list.He's more interested in what I am than what I do. That's why we're called human beings, not human doings.Happy moments, PRAISE GOD. Difficult moments, SEEK GOD. Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD. Painful moments, TRUST GOD. Every moment, THANK GOD. "A friend sent it to me, I shared it with you, now pick friends that you want to bless

kristiegore

I love what he said, it's a wonderful interview with great thought all through out it. Hope you're doing good Mary!:)

 
the_girl_next_door

What wonderful thoughts. Thanks for sharing that!

 
mellymc

Wow, how inspiring. Glad you finally posted Mary!

 
lastoflakewood

What an awesome attitude!

 
mellymc

Haha, thanks! How are you doing my rare form friend?!

 
jeking

They are my oldest brother's three. You're right, Julia and Chris have two boys.

 
hollyloo

due dec. 6 th :)

 
ginrummy

Thanks for sharing the fw - I hope I would be as humble about wealth and influence (it's hard to imagine not buying any major material possessions) but what a wonderful way to deal with the Lord's blessing (that could easily become an entrapment). I still think life is like hills and valleys, though. But he is right about there always being some good and bad.

 
blondeatheart

hey mary! how are u? i had dinner the other night with..uh..i forget how u are related to them..but its the basingers that go to market street.kathy

 
blondeatheart

i think thats her name..and mike i think..idk. im horrible at remembering names.lol

 
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